Holistic Wellness: Retraining Your Nervous System for Clarity and Purpose

Intro Announcer: 00:00:00

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Guest Leslie Lee: 00:00:20

If I hide that I'm angry or I hide that I'm in love, I can't be real.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:00:25

Hey, welcome to youo But Better. I'm Kat.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:00:28

And I'm Kev.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:00:29

Today we're introducing you to Leslie Lee, an integrative wellness specialist who takes a truly holistic approach to health. She's all about helping leaders and businesses thrive with energy, clarity, and purpose.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:00:43

Leslie bridges personal and professional growth in a way that's not just sustainable, but genuinely fulfilling, because for her, success isn't just about what you achieve. It's about how you feel along the way.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:00:56

She's as grounded as she is gifted with that rare blend of wisdom and wit.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:01:02

Plus, she's the kind of person who can help you breathe easier, you know, get into your parasympathetic nervous system that rest and relax. Goodness.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:01:12

She literally sees stress in bodies and wants to help us unpack the boulders in our baggage. We talk about love and shame, about.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:01:22

Surrender and letting go.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:01:24

We talk about retraining our nervous system.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:01:27

And as always, we talk about how to be you, but better.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:01:32

When we work on our bodies, our emotions, emotions, our hormones start to come online. Our goosebumps.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:01:39

Yes, exactly.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:01:40

We start to relax and get out of that fight or flight. Because if we stay in fight or flight, we lose the ability to connect with people. We lose the ability to have a really meaningful relationship.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:01:58

And that starts internally. Yeah.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:02:00

It's interesting because something Kat and I work on a lot is trying to take the micro to the macro. We're always looking what's our impact in the world. And yeah, we look at ourselves, but it's amazing how we grow ourselves. We grow the world, right?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:02:14

Absolutely.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:02:15

It's always connected.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:02:16

It's like a ripple effect. Yeah. Yeah. So my passion, I am a serial entrepreneur, which Kat knows me well enough to know.

So what I'm really excited about now is working with business people, small business people, in developing them personally so that they can then have that professional development. Because when we build those connections internally, we get in touch with ourselves, we start speaking kinder to ourselves.

We start resting better, we start eating better. Like, I don't believe we have to say no to things.

I believe we just have to say yes to the right things, and then all those bad habits actually go away.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:02:59

You know what else I was thinking is that conversation we had before we sat down here. I guess the reverse is true too macro to micro.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:03:07

Absolutely.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:03:08

And right now we've talked frequently, Kat and I, about the weird place the world is in right now. We're in stress overload, aren't we? The world's in kind of a funny place.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:03:19

Bonkers.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:03:20

Yeah. Now that's hitting the micro. That's hitting the person in a funny way. Right.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:03:24

And we have no control over that. It's happening to us.

So I like to work with people with the things that they do have control over because that is where we can each make a difference.

We can make a difference in our own bodies and that's going to affect our long term health, our longevity, our strength, our fitness level, mentally, emotionally and physically. And I really like to work with people not just on mental health, but emotional health because our emotions are what drive our mental well being.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:03:54

Holistic approach to everything. Boy, cat Leslie talks our world, doesn't she?

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:03:58

Yeah, that's why she's here.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:04:01

Yeah. So I think when we. You asked first what I do. I build connections, firstly within a person.

Firstly, actually when somebody walks through my door to work with me, the connection I first build is with that individual. Secondly, I facilitate them to create some changes within their own internal connections.

And then that affects their family, their friends, their community, and then their businesses. And I think that is where real change is going to happen because it's going to continue like a snowball. And when we're happy, not just happy.

I had a fascinating conversation with my daughter yesterday. I was so angry at her, I lost my temper. And I don't lose my temper very often, but I'm at a loss.

And at the end of the night she said, mom, can I have a hug? And she's 25, okay. She's not a kid and she's adorable. And she said to me, mom, can I have a hug? And I said, absolutely.

She goes, well, are you still mad at me? And I said, I am so mad at you, Georgia, that I cannot get over it. She then pouted and she went away.

And about 10 minutes later I went, do you think that I don't love you if I'm angry at you? And she kind of was like full body shame about me being angry. And I said, georgia, I love you more than anything and I'm angry at you.

The power of love is that it doesn't get fluctuated by our emotion. Our emotion is just, it has to come out. And if I, if I Hide that I'm angry, or I hide that I'm in love. I can't be real. And then she was like, okay.

And then I got the biggest hug ever. It was fantastic. But her belief was absolutely that if I was angry, I didn't love her.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:05:46

That's a sophisticated combination of things to process, though. I wonder how many people really get that.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:05:53

I hope a lot. Everybody I know, I hope they get.

If you can make that difference and Kat makes that difference and I make that difference, and then they all make differences, that's how we're gonna change the world.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:06:04

Well, that would be a better world. Wouldn't. Would reduce shame. It would do so many things, wouldn't it?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:06:11

And we can do that. That's the thing I love, is we have control over that, right?

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:06:16

It is awareness of that.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:06:18

Yes. And that's education and shame.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:06:21

You talked about it and how that reflected in your daughter and her attitude. But you caught it. Do you think people.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:06:27

Oh, I let her sit with it for a while. Trust me.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:06:29

Yeah, but you knew what you were doing. You caught it. And shame can be such a negative emotion to process. How do we get through that? You helped her through that.

How do other people help each other through that?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:06:43

Well, I do think it's an awareness. I mean, shame is the lowest resonating emotion that there is. I think that we all have underlying shame every. I have it big time.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:06:56

Me too.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:06:58

We all do. It's all there. And we have to accept and integrate all the parts of us. You used the word holistic a while ago.

I think that there's something to be said for surrendering to who we are, like all the parts of us. Not just the good parts, but the good part. Good, bad, and the ugly and accepting and processing all of it.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:07:22

So we deal with people all the time in a performance situation, and we can see in a second that embedded shame in the body. You can see it in how somebody.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:07:34

Walks and where their eyes go, their body language.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:07:38

I mean, even how they breathe. Right. We can see it or the beads.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:07:42

Of sweat coming down as they're on the stage and the shakiness or the blank.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:07:49

So we're frequently trying to deal with that to get people to recognize some of these things, to see that they're responsible for allowing others to shame them and to own the shame and their responsibility in it. But it does take that level of self reflection that quite a few people we work with. They're not there yet.

How do you help somebody start to get that sophisticated with how they look at themselves.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:08:17

I would have two different answers to that based on my business. So if I'm working with somebody, coaching them, I have a conversation about myself. I talk about myself and what I felt.

And I think that there's a lot to be said for building rapport with people and becoming relatable. And when I do that, they typically go, ugh, right? Like, oh my God, thank you.

There's just a comfort that exists around it so that it doesn't become something that's scary or unsafe. And then when I'm working with somebody clinically, if they're on my table or in my care, I physically help them retrain their nervous systems.

Because when it's our nervous system that's creating that little bit of crazy or unsettled stuff within us, Fight or flight.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:09:09

Yeah, we hang there a lot.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:09:10

Yeah, we hang out there way too much.

But over time, helping them retrain their nervous system and through, you know, I do it physically, but then I will talk to them about ways that they can do that themselves.

Through breath work, through walking in nature, through going outside and just catching five minutes of sunlight in their eyes, Humming, you know, anything to, you know, affect your vision, all of it, right? Or hugging somebody. Like, just seriously find somebody that you know when you hug and just say, hey, I need a hug here. Right?

Like, it doesn't have to be complicated. There's tapping, there's, there's all sorts of tools that we can each use on a regular basis. I remember so clearly as a young adult.

I'm, I'm a wallflower by nature. I'm so shy and introverted.

But I've had to train myself to be able to have these authentic, intimate conversations in a way that is comfortable and in a corporate setting. I remember I used to take myself, I'd excuse myself and say, oh, I have to use the washroom now. I go in the washroom and I do three massive breaths.

Like the kind of breath that makes you dizzy. And it would completely reset me. And then I go back out and I'd be good, right? We all have that ability. It does not take time. It does not take.

It doesn't take extra commitment out of our lives. It's not like 50 self care things. Meditate for 30 minutes, do an hour of breath work. Like, okay, that's awesome if you have six hours a day.

But we don't.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:10:40

We call that the sigh of relief.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:10:42

Yeah, we need those.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:10:43

And it's super simple, isn't it? Some of the techniques that you're talking about you have absolute control over them in your day to day. And it's not technology that you need.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:10:54

No. I used to train my children when they were going in for exams how to do body tapping to reduce stress under pressure in an exam, for example.

And they could do those. You know, this one, you can do that in a room full of people. Problem. And you don't look like a strange person. You do it under the table.

But you know, another big one I think is retraining our brains to look for things that are. I call them glimmers.

Those moments like just having a minute of eye contact or whatever it is, or you walk outside and go, oh, it smells so great out here today. Like those glimmers of moments.

So retraining our brains to see good rather than retraining our brains to complain and sigh and, you know, those heavy.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:11:38

Things, because being present and it is.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:11:41

A practice, it is no different than going to the gym and trying to work your glutes to be round and perky. You have to retrain your brain and you have to retrain your body, and it is practice. Once you see those distinctions, you can't unsee them.

You have to work those muscles.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:12:03

I'm listening. Thinking about you. Remember my book? I write about shyness and I was a really shy kid. Yeah, little kid, really shy. I mean, I'm not at all now.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:12:12

And there's nothing little about you.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:12:14

You look back at Kevin, you're hard to believe he was ever shy.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:12:17

My whole life is performance. Right.

But I was a really shy little kid and I was reflecting in my book about what is shyness, because you mentioned feeling you were a max introvert. Well, I am.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:12:32

People laugh when I say that.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:12:34

You know, I'm reflecting that what is shyness other than a reaction to trauma?

When you're little and you might have been exposed to something that made you feel uncomfortable with people or in a certain situation, and it triggered. And that trigger keeps coming up until you deal with it. And it could be that shyness sort of doesn't exist.

You're not born shy, you're pushed into that situation. And when you deal with the sense of being triggered, eventually it may just go away.

Because in the chapter I talk about shyness, I worry that we label ourselves because of that trauma. That's natural. Like if something happens, you're gonna withdraw. There's nothing wrong with you. We all probably would.

My fe, though, is that we labeled ourselves a shyness then, and we live that truth for the rest of our lives when we don't need to is what I'm thinking.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:13:39

You know, I couldn't agree with you more. I think there's a lot to be said for subconscious rewiring. Because if we. Like over the last several years, I've had several issues.

If I knew how to fix them myself, I would have fixed them. I had to enlist people that I trusted implicitly to help me through those dark shadow pieces so that I can fix them for myself.

I think that those using shyness as an example, it's a survival technique that we learned somewhere way back when that we carry forward. Most of us do some version of that in relationships. Like why are people divorced six times, Right.

Because you're taking your same damaged, trauma based relationship into the next one, into the next one, into the next one, and so on and so on. And then, you know, into wherever we go. And we're gonna have the same thing showing up unless we deal with our own baggage. Right.

Cause we've packed that backpack around with all those things and it gets heavier and heavier and heavier. So one by one we have to pick those rocks out and throw them in the ocean or something.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:14:46

Yeah, yeah. We talk about trying to give the people we work with the tool that they're missing.

And our job is to spot what tool are you missing that's making you repeat that in your life, whatever it is. And then as soon as you can add it to your tool belt, it's done. Right.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:15:00

You move on.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:15:01

And a lot of it is mind. Isn't mindset huge part of it?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:15:04

Yeah, yeah. Our self talk, our experiences in ourselves. Like how many people do you know that are comfortable with silence?

Like if we just sat here and looked at each other but didn't talk. There's not many people I know that wouldn't try to fill the room and.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:15:20

Being comfortable in your own skin.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:15:22

I remember doing this.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:15:23

That's a tough one.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:15:24

Bizarre exercise in this program I did for a weekend program is called the mastery. And 30 people would sign up and you go to a hall and everybody that had done the Mastery in the past that wants to go can go and watch.

And so you'll get a few hundred people or more in the hall. And when it starts on a Friday evening, the first thing the 30 people have to do is get on stage and the direction they're told.

You have to meet all 30 people silently. You have to go up to each one, look them in the eye, face to face, a few inches apart, hold eye contact for 30 seconds.

You've never met the Person, you can't say a word and then you move to the next person for 30 seconds.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:16:04

That would be a really hard exercise.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:16:06

It was.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:16:06

How many people broke down in tears?

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:16:09

Oh, actually, right. Quite a few. A lot of things happened. I mean, nobody said anything and everybody survived.

And everybody talked for a long time about the experience after. But you try looking somebody you don't know in the eyes directly a couple inches away for 30 seconds, that's a really long time.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:16:25

That exercise is a game changer in life. That's a life changer, I think, for people.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:16:30

And why do you think that's so powerful?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:16:32

Because once they're up there and they figure out that they survived that moment of discomfort and they were actually okay, they can do it again and again and again. I think once we learn that we become.

That's what creates safety in our body, is that we figure out we're not going to implode into dust in the ether once we do something right. I think it's really important. And right now in our world, young people are brought up not connecting with humans again.

That's getting less and less and less and less. And I think it's really important as human beings that we have connection. I mean, there's studies about this stuff, right? Like it exists.

We need human connection. We're social animals 100% and we're becoming.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:17:20

More and more disconnected with the advent of technology and social media and the damage that Covid and staying at home has done. We see it in the classroom, we see it with the people that we work with. How that holding eye contact is really uncomfortable.

And doesn't that go back to knowing who you are and accepting who you are and figuring it out who you are? But that's so uncomfortable and it's so rare for people.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:17:50

I love when I meet a young child, like say a 12 year old at that age where they've already developed those social blockages and they can sit down and go, oh, hey, how are you? I love that because it really shows that they're, you know, they're doing the work even at a young age.

But I think, you know, I know people in their 50s. I work with women in their 50s right now that are finally doing this, you know, women in particular.

I'm really passionate about doing this with women because we have been raised in a culture that says, you know, we have to serve, be, you know, a little bit behind people. We are the, you know, I hate to use polite, be polite, all of that kind of stuff.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:18:33

Be nurturing.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:18:34

Yes, and then now be pretty. You know, there's this opportunity in today's culture that we live in here in North America, where women are allowed to have really good voices.

And it's amazing because that feminine energy mixed with the masculine energy, when we find those balances both in men and women, that's where the ultimate power is. I think if women are too masculine or too feminine, it doesn't work. Same as men.

When men become in touch with their emotions and able to process them in a safe way, that's where their power comes from. I don't think there's cookie cutter answers to this.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:19:15

Yeah, there really isn't. And that's the energy, the interest we're in.

We're exploring all these different ideas because as we were talking about earlier, we want to help people one person at a time, so that ripple effects goes out and makes a positive impact on the world.

And helping people find their voice so they can contribute to a healthy, respectful, responsible dialogue based on authenticity is one of the most important gifts that we give each other. And that carries on, doesn't it?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:19:50

100%. Yeah. I think that's the most important work any of us can do in the world right now. And our world is what's around us. It's what we see, who we see.

And I think when we start retraining our own way of being, we all of a sudden all the negative things just kind of drop off and you just don't even see it anymore. It's like magic. And then, like, it's magnetism. You just start attracting what you're committed to in your life. It just starts showing up for you.

And some people call that manifestation. I actually don't really like that word, because I think we have to be clear on what we want, who we are, and what we can contribute.

And we have to do the work physically, and we have to put our. Like, there's a lot of Doing a lot of work.

And I believe that we have to be clear on what we want and the environment in which we want to provide for ourselves, and then we do the work.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:20:46

But you get to choose.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:20:47

And you get to choose.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:20:48

That's the agency in your life. You get to choose. And when you open those doors, it also opens up to a concept we've been talking about a lot. Charisma.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:20:55

Yes.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:20:55

When you own who you are and you walk into that room with authenticity, you just have that presence about you. Because you're whole.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:21:05

Yes. And opportunities flow your way. Wonderful people come into your lives. That's how you attract the perfect mate.

That's how you find activities that you like. That's how you find beauty in a rainy day. It's the same thing.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:21:21

Which is wonderful. But.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:21:24

Here comes the but.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:21:25

Here's the but.

I read this passage in Caitlin Flanagan's new book, Sex Without Women, and I'm thinking we're in a bit of a funny place in the world right now where all of this seems a little harder. There's a lot of forces kind of coalescing at the same time that's making the beautiful things we're talking about feel harder. Here's the quote.

Let me see both of your reaction. The Internet's biggest byproduct is loneliness. Porn isn't special in that regard. You and I weren't made to live this way.

We barely are living this way.

Many of the traits that make us human, our compassion, our ability to devote sustained thought to a problem, our capacity to fall in love, to sacrifice for the people we love, are meaningless to the algorithms that rule us. They've deformed us.

Every time I hear a middle class young woman make the utilitarian argument for why she makes sexual videos on OnlyFans, because she can make in two hours of work what would take her 40 hours to earn. Waitressing, I think. Here it is at last. End stage capitalism, the phase in which nothing has any value of meaning other than the sale price.

The Internet did not arrive like a wave, allowing us to take time to think about our humanity before we put our toes in the water. It arrived like a flood and we've been drowning in it for more than a quarter century. It keeps taking our soul away from us.

Every passing year, we're less of who we were. Soon there won't be much of us left at all. The only thing that can save us is a great unplugging. But I worry we'll never do it.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:23:11

That's fantastic. I want to read that book now.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:23:13

It's called Sex Without Women.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:23:14

Yeah, I will remember that title because it's very memorable. Great title. I met on a vacation years ago.

I was in Bali with my eldest daughter and we met this young man, he would have been maybe 25 at the time, from Sweden. And he said to me, he said, over history, and this was only his opinion, so I'll preface it.

We have invited in all the things that have become our worst enemies. And I think he was so right. That statement stuck with me so much.

And we're at a whole new level of that right now with the implementation of artificial intelligences.

I was just reading this morning about all these companies that are making games that train children, like we're talking three year olds, how to use AI. And I sent it to my kids and I said, do you see why I didn't have TV or the Internet in our house?

My kids didn't have television until they were like 16. They thought I was horrible.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:24:14

You were.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:24:16

But our kids hung out. Mine didn't have TV either.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:24:20

You know, it's really interesting and I think that is the world that we live in. I believe where I've come, I have to choose what I let into my world and what I keep out of my world. And I do that by creating boundaries.

I love AI, I love the Internet, I love social media, but within its capacity. And I had to sit back and go, okay, how is this going to serve me? You know, how will it monetize my business? How will it promote who I am?

And I have a very part time relationship with all of the above. But I use them a lot and probably in ways that are quite creative. You know, I use AI for my food macros.

It's brilliant, you know, and, you know, so use it in ways that that stuff helps me versus hurts me.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:25:09

Right.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:25:11

About 15 years ago, I stopped watching news because I can tend to be anxious. And every time I turned the television on, I was angry and I thought, do I really want that at home? No. So I'm not uninformed.

But I go get what I want. The way my brain works is I want to continue to expand in the world.

And where that comes from is I have a big picture vision of leaving a legacy behind me.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:25:43

I think we need more brains like that, don't we?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:25:46

When I focus on that lighthouse, that big bright lighthouse out there, my legacy, it makes everything easy.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:25:53

But Leslie, wisdom isn't valued in the world anymore, you know.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:25:58

Well, it is in my world and that's the only world I know. Yeah. So these kind of conversations, like you inviting me here, it's really an honor, honestly.

And I think that having these conversations with more and more and more and more people is really important.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:26:15

Oh, we've got to fight some of the messages we're sent.

I think of Tom Nichols book the death of Expertise, where we now don't value experts at all and think we all have the same level of knowledge and wisdom. There's sort of this common sense thing or abilities.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:26:33

Right.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:26:34

You know what's so interesting about that? Being in your 50s as a woman and I have several friends, very high High skilled, very educated people.

They go out and they try to find a job in the world and they are put up against somebody that is in their late twenties with an equal degree thinking that that young person has the same skill set. And it is so. And it's not always the case. But I think that where you're poking right now is the emotional intelligence is as important as the iq.

And when we bring that forward into business, I think it monetizes much more efficiently.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:27:19

And so you are relating wisdom to emotions. Are you in that you?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:27:24

I do, yeah.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:27:25

You build up the emotional intelligence over time.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:27:28

I think being able to relate to people and create those. We started talking about connections.

When we can create a personal connection with somebody and bring out the best in that human and then put them into positions where there are opportunities for them, that is where real performance comes from. That's people development.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:27:48

That's interesting. I mean, we argue connection is everything in everything we're doing, but you're putting it in a slightly different way. That's fascinating.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:27:57

And breath never lies.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:27:59

Breath never lies.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:28:02

Because it comes back, doesn't it? To all of it, being embedded in your body, that holistic thing. We have to look at all sides, always right.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:28:10

And at the end of the day, if one of us were to get deathly ill and we had literally six months to live, what do you think our highest priorities are going to be? They are going to be the people that we love. There is no question in my mind. None.

So I don't understand why we go through our lives living in a way that puts that on the side burner. Because we want to do something for somebody else that really isn't benefiting ourselves or our loves.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:28:39

Wow.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:28:39

I think they have to be in alignment, don't get me wrong, because there's a survival technique there. We have to live and we need money to live in this society. We are. And there's a reality check there, but I think that money is like oxygen.

We need it to live, but it isn't why we live.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:28:59

I do worry though, that humans are complex beyond and we have some faults in our system that go way far back. One of the biggest is greed.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:29:11

Any political structure right now would be a great example of what you're talking about. And, but obviously we live in a democratic society. So it shows that more than half of our populations are supporting that greed.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:29:26

How do we get past it?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:29:27

I don't know.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:29:29

Leslie, come on, give us the answer.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:29:31

Well, there is no answer. It's a million dollar answer. But I do think it stems from our ripple effect that each of us creates?

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:29:40

Yeah. I'm thinking. Can I project an answer?

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:29:42

Yes, please. I would love to hear it.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:29:44

It's a combination of connection. Working on yourself, and we make the world better. One person at a time.

You know, if you can grow a few of these things in yourself and share it with a good friend and that connection, that's where the answer lies.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:29:59

And truthfully, that is your world. Like our world doesn't exist on the television or on a computer screen.

Our world exists at our dinner table and at this table and whatever space we're in. So no cookie cutter answers here.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:30:13

Just real conversations that remind us authenticity is one of the greatest gifts we can give each other.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:30:19

Yeah. And when you're clear on who you are, what we want, and the environment we choose to live in, well, that's agency. That's power.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:30:29

We get to decide what we invite in.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:30:31

Even the hard stuff.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:30:32

Exactly. We don't outsource wisdom. That comes from emotion, from connection. Breath never lies.

Guest Leslie Lee: 00:30:40

And people are the priority.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:30:42

Not the noise, not the greed. We're here to develop each other, bring out the best.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:30:47

Okay, look, money matters. It's oxygen. But it's not why we breathe. Love your people.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:30:54

Protect your energy plant ripples. And do the work on yourself.

Co-Host Kevin Ribble: 00:30:59

And that's how we make the world a better place. You. But better.

Intro Announcer: 00:31:05

Ignite my voice. Becoming unstoppable. Your voice is your superpower.

Co-Host Kat Stewart: 00:31:12

Use it.